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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Shakedown Street

Okay I always looking for great versions of Shakedown. So whats yours. PS not to get into discussions about this nor am I trying to put down what you think as being good but if its after 1984 I won't listen to it. Call it snobby or whatever but we all have preferences and mine doesnt listen to anything after 1984. No offense to anyone. So hey all whats your best version of Shakedown you have ever heardpre 1985?

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Poster: peacefrog4 Date: Dec 23, 2006 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

try 1-10-79

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Sorry, Ssag, my era biases keep me pretty much in the dark on this tune...but, I am curious as to whether your 'frog' reference has any significance, 'Peacefrog 4' (if you don't mind me asking)...

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

what huh? "frog" reference could you explain better?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

My bad Ssag--it was in reference to the other person that posted under that name, and I pulled a "Max" by posting to you (I think) instead of "peacefrog4"...sorry...

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Dec 23, 2006 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

here's a few that usually don't get mention....11-24-78,4-17-82,11-25-79,3-28-81,12-31-81,6-24-83.enjoy

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Dec 23, 2006 7:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

One of my fav's is the 1st set opener from Utica 3/13/81. 13 minutes of a fine groove with some excellent vocal work by both Jerry and Bobby. Can't miss with this one (rest of the show doesn't suck either)

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Huh I cant find this one. I think I remember having this one on tape and remembering it as a good one. Any ideas where to find it? brentyears.com I guess?

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Have you checked http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-03-13.wise.lutch.4167.sbeok.shnf ? Excellent quality aud.

Wait, now that I look at it there is only the MP3 ZIP file available, not the VBR ZIP file I got here. The VBR is still up for the next night. Anyone know why? I'm not a technical wiz here, so I can't really answer my own question.
If the file I have is no longer available and after streaming you decide you'd like a copy, let me know and we'll work something out.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2006-12-23 16:37:18

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Poster: Bear in 29206 Date: Dec 23, 2006 9:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Just outside your window...but 10-31-85 - Halloween night, and the only time the boys EVER played here in SC....and the night before yet another Dicks Picks...(aw shucks)

For the best recorded version find the : "Field: Schoeps CMC441 (from TS, 17cm @ 90deg) > Oade M118 > Oade modSony PCM-F1 Transfer: master PCM > DAW (via SEKD card) > DSP* > CD (mkw) > HD > mkwACT0.97b (SHN)
version!

AWESOME!

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 24, 2006 4:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Yah know I forgot about this show.I was there BTW, it was great time and I did download it thanks brother. See I am not that closed minded :)

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Poster: Bear in 29206 Date: Dec 24, 2006 7:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Ssag-

No prob. Was there too and honestly, at that time, it didn't rank too high with other shows I've seen (one of thirteen) but it had it's moments.

But, listening afterwards, and compared to everything else out there, it sounds damn good.

Best show I've been too... Colgate 11/4/77

Merry X-Mas!
Bear

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Poster: Street Pig Date: Dec 23, 2006 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

flex a little with 6.30.85! My personal favorite is 10.25.79 and 1.17.79 cause I witness them in person to see that the band was onfire from the gate!

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Awwww man dont make me flex man. Dont do this to me man. LOL

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Dec 24, 2006 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

^ good call above w/ 10-25-1979, i plum almost forgot about this one, great sounding board, great james...

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Poster: Street Pig Date: Dec 23, 2006 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

I would fast forward or skip ll Rain for a long time then flexed a little and realized i was missing Jers gutiar....just a little won't hurt.I also dreaded Corrina at the end of the trip but listened anyway, I love this music.Happy New Year!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 23, 2006 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

I REFUSE to listen to ANY versions of Shakedown Street after 1977 : )


5-16-81
12-31-81

btw - by not listening to any post 84 I think your cheating yourself about as much as any Dylan fan who refused to listen to any of his electric stuff.

This post was modified by johnnyonthespot on 2006-12-23 18:37:04

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Yeah me too dammit, screw that 1977 Shakedown and older stuff.

No, look the intention wasnt for this to come up but I knew it would. The reality is I like the guitar sound better than I do the overbearing organ sound. Which happened after 1985 where you just about can't hear Weir anymore. Sorry I mean this as no offense but Jerry got lazy (or too smacked/freebased out)and Weir disappeared and Brent sound took over. (Plus, I hate the MIDI shit, I listen and spend alot of time down in Mississippi listening to the real down home stuff in the backwoods, its just my thing to hear players play their instruments and not rely on gadgets).

Not the biggest fan of Brent, I have personal experiences with the guy where I hung out with him a few times drinking and partying. He wasn't a very good dude. Sorry if that upsets everyone but he was an asshole and his songs were about as hypocritcal as they came. If your'e female would have hated this guy, he was a jerk, I am sorry but there is no better way to put that. Good Time blues sums up his true feelings and all that crap about his daughter was bullshit. Sorry I know thats a strong opinion but like I said I partied with the guy and saw him in action.

Besides, I dont not like snythisizer sound period and opt for what I like best. I know I there is some great stuff after 1984 and even some of the 1980-84 stuff begs the question how much drugs took over their lives. Trust me I love drugs but there's a point where it overtakes you. I love the piano sound better thats all.

I do appreciate y'alls responses and by no means am I trying to start a debate about Brent just saying what I think.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 23, 2006 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

WOW! Someone who agrees with me? I think the band was playing real strong 87-91, perhaps their strongest since 77 imo but like you I was never a big Brent fan. I am not a synthesizer fan either and I especially don't like those real heavy handed swooping thick cheesy sounding chords he laid on. Not bashing the guy, just my personal preference.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 23, 2006 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Strong feelings, but you warned all, and provided them with reluctance, so...in-person interactions allowed you to see what most all of us couldn't...do you think that he was the unhappy soul that Jerry described in some interviews? Perhaps he battled some serious inner demons and this contributed to his coming off so poorly in the situations you shared? Not trying to defend him or take away from your position...

I never liked his sound, though appreciate that some did; I defn didn't care for his singing, but recognize he had a good voice, technically speaking. My reaction to him was in part my reason for dropping out in the early 80s.

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 23, 2006 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Its very possible he was a disturbed soul and for that everyone gets a fair shake. I think mostly my opinion is swayed because of all the Heads ewwwing and aweing over that song about his daughter (I can't remember the name). When in fact he treated women like shit and couldnt have care less about his family. I saw this shit with my own two eyes. I have a hard time looking past hypocracy, I know its a fault and I miss out on some good things because I am judgemental sometimes. Comes from growing up in a Boston Irish Catholic family. I wont even read Ezra Pound because if him being the Facist Proproganda Minister for Italy during WWII. But thats a different story.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 23, 2006 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

This is why I'm glad I've never had any interaction with any artist I'm a fan of, no matter what the medium. I'd just as soon keep the art and the artist separate, and that's just so much easier when I'm not burdened by some sort of knowledge that gets in the way.

Now, if they make some grand public gesture that happens not to sit well with me, such as endorsing a specific political candidate or getting behind a cause I might have issue with, it's no biggie because it's there's still the buffer of "okay, they obviously gave this some pretty serious consideration, and it does seem sincere." It's different that knowing someone treated their family badly or was physically abusive to people- i.e., truly indefensible behavior.

Not that I have any illsuions about those who's work I admire- I'm just really not interested in knowing much about their private lives.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 23, 2006 7:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

i hear ya - a female friend of mine had "extreme leeway" backstage from 79 through about 85. Her vision of Jerry is not the same as ours, trust me. We have read about it, she watched it. Brent i'm sure had family issues - Jerry did too, big time

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Poster: Ssag Date: Dec 24, 2006 5:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

I know but do you really want to go there? I didnt even want to get into the Brent thing but I didnt like the little playful jabs here and there so I explained myself. Somethings are best left unsaid.

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Dec 23, 2006 9:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

12/31/84 - can you handle something so late? It's a shame you don't include '85 because there are a couple of classics from that year. 6/30/85 and 11/5/85 are a couple of the best ever.

Oh and don't forget about 11/25/79, 4/6/82, 8/3/82 and 5/14/83. All good'uns.



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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 24, 2006 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

That 12-31-84 is a classic: the short drum downbeat at the very beginning has an almost apocalyptic quality to it, and it's all uphill from there!

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Dec 23, 2006 5:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

That's okay. I understand. If you want to miss the greatest Shakedown of all time that's fine with me.

I've always liked Cleavland 1978 (also has a great If I Had the World to give, not to mention Playin').

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Dec 23, 2006 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

A Couple of favorites:

7-14-81, the slowest, funkiest versions i know of
10-31-79 18 minutes, great version!!1
12-31-81

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Dec 23, 2006 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

5-15-1981, 09-12-1981, 05-07-1980, 11-24-1978, 09-16-1978, 05-14-1983, 12-31-1984 , 08-27-1981 to name but a few...though the best one is 06-30-1985

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 23, 2006 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Try Alligator alley 1980. It's an interesting Shakedown because it segues into Franklin's.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Dec 23, 2006 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

a great show period!!! my most listened to AUD.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 23, 2006 6:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

Good call. This show almost never comes up but it's a good one.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 24, 2006 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Shakedown Street

concur with you both. Top notch gig. I have a nice aud from this and the place is tiny so you can hear the electricity.